Added: Nov 22, 2008
From: porolita22
Duration: 9:9
Let's think about this for a second. What kind of Vegan and/or Animal Rights activists are we being?IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not saying hard core AR activists are militant. By militant I refer to people who recur to insults, violence of any kind, and arrogance whilst trying to make their point. I enjoy hard core activism, I do some myself sometimes, there is just a specific time and a place to do it. And some people just don't know when to do so or when to abstain.Also I apologize for my crappy English in this video, and for speaking so fast. I was at work at 9:30 pm, so yeah. Kinda tired and annoyed LOL.If you want to see my Animal Rights related videos there is a playlist in my channel. Also, here it is the video I am talking about (where the comments with the person I mentioned happened) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI4aa5w_DlMBut please DO NOT message this person back. It is just for reference ;-)Thanks!
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IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - You may want to read my post again. I did not in anyway threaten to eat your cat? Maybe you could try to have the civil conversation you preach about.
IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - And by the way I loved the video with you and your cat together over time. So I am not here to hate or attack you, I am trying to let you know that sitting back and hearing anyone justify hate for outspoken vegans is not ok with many. Perhaps you feel that way, I don't.
porolita22 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - "If someone was to suggest eating YOUR cat, would you take the same "so called polite" approach and say well its a choice?Is the difference for you, that it's not your love one" - That's what you posted. When did I say you threatened to eat my cat? LOLAnd you're right, I'm gonna take my own advice and better ignore you. Because trying to have a civil conversation with you is impossible.
porolita22 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Thanks. Did you read the video description?
IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - yes, I read the discription. And aside from this video I very much like the content of your site. We are in many ways on the same side.
porolita22 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Do you think I should delete this video? Maybe I will...
snappyjdog Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - I have to agree with porolita in that I think the best way to affect change is through information, understand, and ultimately love. I think so many people automatically put their fingers in their ears when people get really pushy. So, I guess what I'm saying is that I tend to error on the side of being diplomatic than angry or preachy and I think that's Porolita's point in this video.
soodleb Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - your wise..this is why so many animals activists are hated..some go to far...violence and all.
IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Hi...I am sorry for my aggressive response to your video. There was a better way for me to respond. I'd very much like to let you know trigger words and ideas in the video I feel compelled me to respond to the video in the manner that I did. I am going to be gone for the day but I am hopeful that you are ok with me getting back to you on this.Let me know if you are ok with hearing from me and I will e-mail and explain what I was responding to, and why.
porolita22 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Did you even watch the video?I don't understand your comment.If it wasn't clear I made a follow up video. You might wanna check it out.
wzxd8rm Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - IfYouStartMeUp wrote: "The title alone is offensive..."----------------I agree, we live in a world ruled by carnivores and vegans are in the minority. Bad publicity doesn't help vegan cause. Media spreads enough news about extremists like ALF, etc... But the majority of vegans are non-violent people. The concept of veganism is a peaceful coexistence among all living beings, the term "militant" is in direct opposition to vegan cause.
porolita22 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - I still don't understand how what you're saying has anything to do with the content of my video. I know what veganism is, I am vegan, what are you trying to tell me? Please explain.
OneAnnoyedVegan Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Poroita22, I think you've explained this quite well. If someone doesn't get the message or gets offended, they should just shut the fuck up.
OneAnnoyedVegan Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Riiiight, that's why you posted a comment on a girls video telling her to stab her father in the butt with a fork.Nice.
yellowfluff Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - you should not delete this video - I thought it was well done. There are polite people and nasty people in every walks of life, so of course you are going to get mixed feedback on this video - would you expect any different.
wzxd8rm Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - OneAnnoyedVegan wrote:Riiiight, that's why you posted a comment on a girls video telling her to stab her father in the butt with a fork.Nice.---------------------------I've thought females have sense of humor, you're obviously an exception.
wzxd8rm Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - OneAnnoyedVegan, do you have any self-criticism at all??? Do you realize that you're the extremist that gives vegans bad publicity. You joined YouTube on October 29, 2008 and already have close to 30 friends on your page, I have yet to find here a normal person to consider a friend. Are you a moral prostitute???
OneAnnoyedVegan Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Dude, I know how I behave, and I know this video was made for people like me. I bad mouth a lot. Am I proud? I guess not but I am working on it. It just pisses me off when someone makes a kind video and other vegans jump on it feeling self righteous and offended. What is your problem?And no. I do not consider myself a moral prostitute. What the hell does that mean anyway? It's not like I'm inviting YT friends over for dinner or hooking up with them.
IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - It's true I don't like the video or the title. What I feel is harmful and destructive is using negative words like Hate and Militant to describe a group of people. The video is addressing one minority group. It seems to me that is takes a very narrow and one sided look at one minority group of peoples behavior. I personally think that the behavior you describe in the video does not belong to one group of people. I suggest that that behavior you describe fits many people on U-Tube.
wzxd8rm Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - OneAnnoyedVegan, moral prostitute is a hypocrite and opportunistic liar.
OneAnnoyedVegan Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - I might have issues. But I'm no hypocrite, and you Mr. seem to have bigger issues than me. No wonder your comments. All makes sense now. Thx.
winterwinwin Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - GREAT video, honey. Love you. /big hugs/
CDLver Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - Porolita, you needn't apologize for anything, least of all your "crappy" English. You express yourself eloquently; quietly and clearly you speak your piece about veganism. You epitomize all that a vegan is, and a fine representative to spread the good word about a vegan lifestyle.
BOOLSHIT2 Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - you are so right.i totally sometimes say the wrong things and im kinda bossy cause i cant help it damn!i should try harder i guess.i like what you say and how you say it.hey and you are hot :P hehehe
IfYouStartMeUp Says:
Nov 22, 2008 - I do see what you mean because you did it to us vegans and no I don't want to fight. I want you to represent us well.Maybe I should get myself on camera to better express myself? People express themselves with words all the time, as I have here. So try not to use empty arguments. The fact that I have not posted videos to date has nothing to do with being capable of expressing myself.You might have considered taking both sides of the argument instead of saying it's simple why they hate us.